Pursue Your Passion | Sarah Garver | AWM Capital Athlete Wives Series #2
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Episode Summary
Sarah Garver, the wife of Ranger's catcher Mitch Garver, is passionate about being a wife, mother, and veterinarian. In this episode, Sarah shares why she pursues her career in conjunction with Mitch being a professional baseball player and the benefits her work provides even though she does not technically "need to work."
Given the above, it makes sense why the Garver family phrase is "It's only temporary." Sarah gives a great perspective on why that is their phrase, what it means to them, and how that governs what their family is working towards. Sarah understands that good and bad circumstance are only temporary, and as she states, "you can get through harder times if you understand that it is only temporary."
Sarah's success story is that she has fulfilled her childhood dream of becoming a veterinarian and continued practicing, even after Mitch was traded, after experiencing several cross-country moves and balancing her more challenging job of being a mother. As a veterinarian, Sarah provides her family flexibility, purpose, and application of the knowledge and skillsets she has obtained over many years. Through it all, Sarah affirms that she is a better mother and spouse because of her work.
Sarah's simple yet profound advice to other baseball spouses going through similar circumstances - if you want to pursue a career, do it!
Episode Highlights
(1:59) Garver Family Story
(2:10) Beginnings of Mitch & Sarah's relationship in high school
(3:32) Transition to college - while Mitch was trying to figure out where to play baseball, Sarah began pursuing the education for her career as a Vet.
(4:12) Sarah discusses Mitch being drafted by the Twins in 2013 and her acceptance to grad school at Oregon State 1 week later.
(6:40) Sarah and Mitch navigated being a team while having different goals.
(7:48) Sarah discusses the implications of Mitch being a walk-on in college and ultimately signing after his senior year of college, which included a negative experience with an agent relationship.
(9:29) How important good advice and representation are as families navigate professional baseball.
(13:07) Sarah discusses how they navigated their marriage on limited time and money while Sarah was a grad student and Mitch was a minor league player.
(16:09) How they believed it was important to spend the money to see each other - even when they necessarily did not have the money to do so.
(16:33) Sarah explains how almost everything in this life is, to quote her, "Only Temporary."
(18:50) Sarah talks about why she is a Veterinarian and the benefits being a Vet provides to their family
(19:47) Being clear on what you accomplish matters - even while being the wife of a professional athlete.
(24:07) Flexibility in her career allows her to continue serving animals, pursuing her passion, balancing work, and being a mother.
(27:37) Sarah discusses the importance of her career and the positive impacts on her being a mother, being a spouse, and being part of the Garver family.
(32:56) Sarah's advice to others contemplating pursuing a career - is “just do it and figure it out later.”
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Josh McAlister (00:11): Welcome to the AWM player's wives series. Here we go behind the scenes with actual clients of ours and see how wives are doing in their daily life with professional baseball players. I'm your host, Josh McAlister. I'm here with Sarah Garver today. She is the wife of Texas Rangers catcher, Mitch Garver. Fun little fact, I actually grew up so to speak with Sarah and Mitch in Albuquerque, New Mexico. And so when I say I love her dearly, that is actually true, and our families go way back. But I believe they have a unique story to tell that will help a lot of people. And also paint a picture of really what a family looks like from the wives' perspective that does want to work even in the midst of a lot of success with the husband in this profession. So without further ado, Sarah, welcome to the podcast.
Sarah Garver (01:03): Hello, thank you for having me. You didn't mention your dad married us.
Josh McAlister (01:07): That is true. My dad, yeah, that is a fun deal.
Sarah Garver (01:10): It goes deep.
Josh McAlister (01:11): It does go deep. Yeah. My dad's an attorney and we growing up, we actually called him Judge Jamie, which was super fun. And I've never seen him more nervous than for the Garver wedding, which is great. Which I was like, "You can't blow this." And he was like, "Yeah, exactly. I can't blow this. It's such a big deal." Which was super-
Sarah Garver (01:31): He did a great job.
Josh McAlister (01:32): He did, because he practiced for a very long time. But anyway, Sarah, yeah, thank you for being here. I'd love to just start with your guys' story. I start really with each interview here because I think it's impactful and compelling and it resonates with people. And so just from the get go, start back even in college with you and Mitch.
Sarah Garver (01:54): Well, it starts before that, high school. So we met, technically, we met way earlier in high school, but we didn't actually talk to each other until sophomore year of high school. I guess we were 14, 15 years old. And we had a chemistry class together and I always had a perception of him that he was a jock that wasn't very smart, and I was in school for school and wanted to do well.
Josh McAlister (02:21): That's true. He's a jock and he's not very smart. Mitchell will be listening to this too, so, I mean, I can say that-
Sarah Garver (02:25): No, but it turns out he is extremely smart-
Josh McAlister (02:27): He is. He is.
Sarah Garver (02:28): He's smarter than me.
Josh McAlister (02:29): Yes.
Sarah Garver (02:29): He was helping me with my chemistry homework. And it was those green eyes, man, I'm telling you, green eyes. Yeah. He was helping me with my homework and everything. And then he got moved out of my class, which sucked. And I never really saw him. And I actually had one of my classes was a TA for the office and I could take tickets to classrooms having to call students out or whatever. And so if there was ever during that period, a ticket to his class, that was mine. I let everyone else know that was my ticket. I would go. And yeah, we hit it off. We dated. Started dating, definitely broke up a few times in high school. You know how that goes, boys. And then college came around and he was deciding where to go for baseball.
Sarah Garver (03:22): He had a few, I don't know if there were technical offers or not, out of state, which I had no say so in. He was going to do what he was going to do. I planned on going to UNM, University Of New Mexico, in our home state for my own schooling. And that was a didn't really like, I didn't plan on going anywhere else. And I probably wouldn't have changed that. But luckily he ended up going to UNM as well. So we spent four years there in undergrad and he was drafted by the Twins in 2013, which was my last year of undergrad. He proposed to me that winter. And I got into vet school at Oregon State about a week later and planned on that. So 2014 started vet school. I was in Oregon for four years while Mitchell was working his way up the chain. So, long distance for several years. And then we made our home base in Albuquerque, which is where we're from. And we were there a few years.
Sarah Garver (04:24): We got married in 2015. Gosh, I had to think about that. 2015 we got married by Judge Jamie. And we just had our first baby in July of 2021. So been busy. We now reside in Aurora, Colorado. So we've moved up north a little bit, but currently in Texas.
Josh McAlister (04:47): Love it. That is the short and sweet story, right? That I still have questions for though, we'll go back to. It is funny. I mean, we both went to the same high school, right? And I actually played club ball with Mitch way back when, even before Sarah was, we'll give Mitch an out, right? He actually set eyes on you and knew that he was going to marry you. He just didn't know at the time, even just through the breakups. I married my high school sweetheart. Same thing happened, but I digress. Going back to high school, so that was a time where, and specifically going to UNM, right? So Mitch made a decision to go there and I believe he was a walk on actually, am I correct?
Sarah Garver (05:34): Yep.
Josh McAlister (05:35): Yeah. Which was not a risk, but at the same time, there was no real pathway for Mitch. And I think if I can give the audience a story about Mitch and Sarah, just more of a theme about Mitch and Sarah, overcoming adversity is what they've done time in and time out. And it is very apparent, as you see, as we talk about Sarah's life. But talk about college. Talk about how Mitch went through that, and then specifically your feelings of the ebbs and flows of being a collegiate athlete.
Sarah Garver (06:10): Yeah. I mean, that was a lot on his plate as far as like us as a couple as perfectly fine, we made it work. And he traveled a lot, obviously with baseball. And I had my goals, he had his, and we were able to both follow our dreams and make that work, which is great. Mitchell was not only an athlete, he was a student as well. And without having a guarantee of baseball, he was working towards a degree. I mean, that was his plan. Baseball ended up working out and that's not always the case, but for him it did. He was like six credits short from graduating with his degree in Physical Science. Yeah. Originally he wanted be a chiropractor, and then he wanted to be a physical therapist. So he was working on that. And being a walk on, he didn't have any, I mean, he didn't think he was going to continue to play baseball. It was just more so that's what he was doing because he enjoyed doing it. But he worked really hard and he did well in school on top of playing.
Josh McAlister (07:20): And Mitch was drafted his senior year, correct?
Sarah Garver (07:24): Yeah. So junior year he was eligible, obviously after being 21. And I don't know where he found this agent or how he, maybe Josh maybe you know. I don't know the whole story behind that, but oh man, that was tough. I remember sitting with him on draft day and we weren't expecting, and this was junior year, we weren't expecting top 10 rounds or whatever that's on TV, whatnot. But he was just sitting there waiting and waiting and waiting for the phone calls. And he could do tell as the round just kept going, that he just was so sad. You could just see it, and disappointed, sorry, my dogs are...
Josh McAlister (08:10): It's all right. It's all good.
Sarah Garver (08:10): ... also cooperating. You can just see the disappointment in his face. And it got to the point where he was like, "I just, I want to be alone." I left and he ended up playing. He didn't get drafted. We later found out this guy was kind of a, I don't even know what to call him, not a real agent or not great. I don't know.
Josh McAlister (08:33): Not truthful.
Sarah Garver (08:34): Not truthful. And got rid of him. We found Fred, who we're still with, Fred Ray, who's amazing. And looking back on it, yes, that sucked. And I know that was a really hard time for him because he had all these hopes that he was going to go his junior year. But, through that he had the opportunity to play in the Cape Cod League. And that's something that he wouldn't have been able to do. And he made a lot of great friends there, a lot of good relationships. He started working with Fred, and then he was drafted his senior year, ninth round, I believe, ninth round to the Twins. And it was very exciting. Was it ninth?
Josh McAlister (09:18): Good enough. I think. Yeah. Eighth, ninth, 10th, somewhere around there.
Sarah Garver (09:21): I think ninth.
Josh McAlister (09:22): Ninth. Yeah. Ninth. Yeah. Thanks for sharing that Sarah, because I remember talking with Mitch and yeah, there is some disappointment that you have because Mitch had a great collegiate career, and far surpassed the walk on status at UNM. And so, I mean, he was one of the more decorated catchers UNM has ever had, and really one of the more decorated hitters University of New Mexico has ever had. And then to not get directed your junior year, yeah, that's kind of a punch in the gut. And I would say more so there, because there was this build up of, oh maybe it is a reality. Maybe I can continue to play the game that we all love a little bit longer. And then it's a no, which is difficult, hard, et cetera,
Josh McAlister (10:06): Just like you just talked about. I will also say that I love the fact that there's dogs in the background with Sarah, because she's also a vet, which is what we're going to get into later in the episode. But before we do that, talk about getting drafted now and then getting into Minor League ball, with you getting into vet school and going through that.
Sarah Garver (10:29): Yeah. So he was drafted in June or July of 2013. I was still finishing undergrad at UNM. I didn't graduate until 2014, or sorry, no, 2013 of December, which is practically 2014. So we got engaged that December and I found out a week later that I was going to Oregon State. I hadn't committed officially until the following April and started my time at Oregon State in 2014. So in 2013 he spent his first rookie season in Tennessee. I was still in New Mexico. I got to travel a little bit and see him, which was nice, in between working and school. And then 2014, his first season was in Cedar Rapids. Yes. Cedar Rapids, Iowa. So I was in Oregon. He was in Iowa. We made it work. He was a few hours ahead. I would say the hardest year was the following year. He was in Florida and I was in Oregon. So we had quite a bit of time difference, and I was so busy in school and then he would have his games really late at night. So obviously we made it work, but it was definitely harder to communicate as often. I don't know why Siri's also talking, take that.
Sarah Garver (11:54): So yeah, that was tough. And what was really hard is being a student and being in the Minor Leagues, we essentially made no money. I mean, we didn't have any money. And of course I had not a lot of flexibility, but more in comparison, as far as what we were doing to be able to go see him. I mean, when you're in the Minors, you don't get days off. You can't go visit on a long weekend or holiday. So I would scrap up the money to go see him during spring training, during my spring break. And it was hard. It was really hard to be able to do that, flying from Oregon to Florida, which is where he had spring training every year. It's a whole day of travel and I only have a week, so it's two days out of my short week I already have there of just traveling. And luckily most of the time I was on a break from school and I had finals the week before.
Sarah Garver (12:54): So I didn't need to worry about studying or anything like that. And I could just enjoy my time there, but I had to get, if he was not in a place where we could stay together with roommates, he had roommates or whatever, or he was staying, I think one year he stayed at the, whatever it's called, the dorm through the Twins. So I would have to get a hotel, and a rental car, or an Airbnb. And it was hard. It was really hard to do that. And there were definitely times where it would've been easier not to, financially, but I knew the importance of going and seeing him. And that was always a strain, but we did it. And then he would typically after the season ended in September, October, would come out to Oregon for a few weeks. And then I would try to get home for winter break back to Albuquerque and see him then. But during that four years, the most we were with each other at one time was probably three or four weeks. Josh McAlister (13:52): That's tough. Sarah Garver (13:53): Yeah. Josh McAlister (13:53): Was there ever a question of, "Hey, why are we doing this?" Sarah Garver (13:58): Like as far as careers or being together? Josh McAlister (14:01): Like apart, Mitchell's in the Minor Leagues, you're making money, but at the same time also in school and you guys... I think the reason why I ask is partly because I want to be able to showcase that, Hey, there's perseverance and there's struggle. But at the same time, there is hope and light on the other side, so to speak, for both of you to pursue. But you want to be able to do together though, like talk about that. Sarah Garver (14:34): Yeah, no. Of course there was always talk of whether or not it was a good idea or responsible to spend that much money for a short trip or whatever. And we ended up deciding each time that yes, it was important that we saw each other. And so we did it and end up okay. It was a little stressful at times, but we made it work just fine. I would say like a very common phrase that we say, I don't know if Mitchell says it as much as I do, but it's only temporary, and there's so much in life and this lifestyle and it's only temporary. So it's not a forever thing. It's not forever that we're going to be long distance. It's not forever that I'm going to be in school or that he's going to be in the Minors or playing baseball.
Sarah Garver (15:26): It's only temporary. All of this stuff is only temporary. And part of that works towards the career itself. It's only temporary. But part of it is knowing like you can get through these harder times because it's only temporary. I find myself still saying the phrase more so with my baby spitting up on me all the time. But there's so many things that are temporary. A lot of this is not forever. But I think part of that drives the ambition to do things that we can make more temporary in our life. We control the controllables.
Josh McAlister (16:08): I love that. I love that phrase because that is true of hard things, and that's also true of success. And what I can commend you guys for is staying together and staying, not just together from like a, Hey yeah, you guys are committed to each other. But, also just like staying together in how you approach this. You approach the successes, the failures, family, baseball, vet, little Gamble. But Gamble is, they've got the coolest baby name by the way, Gamble Garver, right? That's my personal favorite. But also just being able just to have that mindset of it is only temporary is massive because it allows you as a family just to ride the ebbs and flows.
Josh McAlister (16:53): With that being said, talk a little bit about being a vet. What drove you to being a vet? What do you love about it? I'd love to hear everything that you have as Sarah, the veterinarian.
Sarah Garver (17:06): Well, I definitely, like most kids who end up being vets, that's what you want to do. I mean, most kids, even that don't become vets, a lot of people just want to be vets when they're little because they love animals. And I know you have that case going on in your household right now.
Josh McAlister (17:22): I do. My six year old wants to be a vet, yes.
Sarah Garver (17:26): I mean, that's all I ever wanted to do. I didn't really have a backup plan. And so I set my sight on that, and I'm a very, as Mitch likes to say, stubborn person, but I think-
Josh McAlister (17:38): Goal oriented.
Sarah Garver (17:38): Driven, yeah, is better. So that's all I wanted to do, and I made it happen, and I didn't let other people's lives influence what I was going to do with my own. Because some people are happy going with the flow and doing what others are doing, in Mitchell's instance, traveling with him, falling him around, doing the whole minor league experience. But I didn't want to do that. I wanted my own thing. I wanted to have my own career. And again, there's nothing else I wanted to do. And with this lifestyle, we both have this short period where we're able to, I mean, yes, I could go back to school later, but I'm not going to want to go back to school when I'm 30, 35. I want to get it done and out of the way and doing what I'm wanting to do, just like he's not going to get drafted when he's 30. We have that time where we're able to do these things. And so we need to take advantage of it.
Sarah Garver (18:38): And I don't regret it a single day. I love my job. I love what I do. It certainly is hectic at times. And I have had the benefit of being able to work wherever I am. So when I worked in small animal general practice for a few years, full-time in Albuquerque, and I got to the point where not because I wasn't happy in my job, but I just felt like I would be happier being with my husband and being... They experience a lot too. And with injuries, things like that, you don't realize that they're by themselves a lot. I know Mitchell got injured in 2018, 19. And I happened to be already have a trip planned out there for a week. And I remember thinking, if I wasn't here, he would just be by himself in his apartment, a sprained ankle and the teams on the road and you don't have family there. You don't really have friends per se because it's not your home city.
Sarah Garver (19:49): And that kind of made me sad that he just, and that happens. I mean, a lot of them, when they come home from the field or they have an off day, yeah, they can hang out with a team or whatever. But sometimes they want to break from each other and then they don't have people there. And that to me was, okay, I would like to be there, but I'd like to be there for myself too. I'd like to experience the fun of traveling and seeing different stadiums and things like that. So I made the decision in 2019, I took the whole month of October off hoping we'd get to the World Series, whatever, have prepared. Because I didn't want to leave my job hanging too, being like, "Oh nope, I need another week off. I need another week off."
Sarah Garver (20:34): In the end I was just like, "I need the entirety of the week off." And at that time too, I went to a more part-time position so that I could travel more just so I had the flexibility to be able to see him a little more. And then 2020 before COVID, I had decided that I was going to travel full-time with him. So I got my license in Minnesota. I had a job set up and then of course COVID happened. Luckily I was still able to work and I found a great clinic there with great people, worked there. And that was another time I was very thankful to have been there because I can't imagine, I mean, what he would've done if he was just sitting there by himself and we were in Minnesota the whole time prepared for whatever day the season decided to start. So I can't imagine not being there and I'm thankful I am. So ended up traveling, but not because of country shutting down.
Sarah Garver (21:32): And then 2021, I was going to travel again, but then I was pregnant. So I had to kind of put that on the back burner.
Josh McAlister (21:40): So you were shut down. Yeah.
Sarah Garver (21:43): I was shut down. Yeah. And then we moved to Colorado. I had my license there as well. I practiced a little bit, but with a baby, I was doing very part-time stuff. And since then I have now worked with my clinic back in New Mexico, we're doing remote. So I'm doing some virtual stuff, doing a lot of phone calls, things like that, which a lot of people are like, "How do you do remote work as a vet?" it's possible. And honestly, I'd like to thank COVID for that because I think without COVID, we wouldn't have been able to expand in many, I mean, in many people's jobs, expand and realize that there are capabilities of doing a lot of work from home. So I'm doing that currently from Texas. And it's great. And I'm debating whether or not to get my license here in Texas, but I don't know if I want four licenses.
Josh McAlister (22:33): I don't even know the requirements to keep up with. Maybe there's continuing ed, maybe there's annual filing-
Sarah Garver (22:38): Continuing education. I have to keep up. I mean, every state's different. I have a DEA license, which encompasses all states. I don't have to get that in every state. Some states require a pharmacy license separately, some don't. So I have to keep up with all of that.
Josh McAlister (22:55): Yeah. Which is the minutia, not why you were a vet, right? You didn't want to... You want to work with animals and help them and help families with animals, right? I love hearing the passion, even just like listening to you, of walking through your life of, okay, COVID hit. Okay. And Mitchell also had a very successful 2019 year that you conveniently glossed over, which I'll reiterate. Mitchell won the Silver Slugger Award, right? Mitchell played himself into prospect level, which then played himself into making the team, which played himself into just becoming one of the best catchers in the game currently right now. And it wasn't supposed to happen like that. But Mitchell worked hard to be able to get to where he is at. And yet at the same time, you were working equally as hard at your profession, throughout your family moving all over the country, throughout now being traded, through your own personal move from New Mexico to Colorado.
Josh McAlister (24:02): Given that, I want to know why you continue to work because you guys have been blessed on all levels of, call it resources, right? But there's a purpose and there's a meaning as to why you work. Talk about that.
Sarah Garver (24:18): Yeah. I mean, I feel like that's a pretty, has a lot of different reasons, different answers. The big and easiest answers that I enjoy working and I enjoy what I do. Certainly I enjoy practicing in person hands on more so than working from home, but I'm very thankful to be able to do this right now, in this situation I'm in. I have a baby I'm taking care of, it keeps my mind fresh. I just want to be doing that. And I put a lot into my school and my career and I want to make sure that I'm keeping up with that. Not because I did it, but I want to, it's kind of a internal conflict, a little there. But another big is that keeping my mind fresh, certainly could take a few years off, raise my child, which there's nothing wrong with that.
Sarah Garver (25:14): But, like I tell people, being a vet is my easier job than being a mom. I mean, being a mom is a lot of work. And so I like going to my easier job. And in order to do that, I feel like I need to keep my mind fresh and keep it going and continue to work, versus taking a few years off. I feel like I'd give rusty and I just don't want to do that. But I want to be able to work long term. And another big part of that and another big driver behind that, beyond that's what I want to do, what I've always wanted to do is, in Mitchell's career, we don't have a guarantee that he's going to be playing tomorrow. So many things could happen, injury, illness, pandemics, there's someone working their way up the line to take your spot. There's always something. And it feels great having security in my job and knowing if he were done with baseball tomorrow, yeah, I'd be sad because it's his dream and his dream's done. But as far as like the financial side of it, we would be okay. And I have my career and I have the ability to, if I wanted to go back full time, do that and be the breadwinner of the family.
Josh McAlister (26:31): Yeah. A lot of things. Thank you for sharing, Sarah. Biggest thing that I hear in terms of just what you said was, its purpose. You didn't say this, but I think we can make this assumption is what you were getting at, it makes you a better spouse. It makes you a better mom. It makes you a better Sarah Garver. I mean, I have four boys of my own. My wife does not work and I'm not saying that it's not a one size fits all approach. It's more or less figure out what works for your family. Figure out how you guys can envision the life that you guys want to achieve, to be able to achieve the priorities you want to achieve. And being a veterinarian, it doesn't matter what you do, right? It could be just being a mom. I don't want to say just a mom because it is a very difficult-
Sarah Garver (27:20): Not just a mom.
Josh McAlister (27:20): Yeah, it is not, yeah.
Sarah Garver (27:21): Kelsey's working 20 jobs a day.
Josh McAlister (27:24): Correct. With four different little tykes that have their own agendas. And she actually got chewed out one time by a grandma at our church because she called herself just a mom. And the grandma was like, "No, you are not just a mom." Yeah. It was amazing. So we actually say, she's the lion tamer now, but that's a short for different time. Yeah. But you could be a mom, you could be a veterinarian, you could be in finance, you could be an attorney. You could be whatever brings you purpose. And what actually ends up helping others from that standpoint, that's the goal, right? You want to be able to help fur babies, so to speak. You have a passion for that. You know the joy that a dog or a cat can bring a family and the pain when they leave. So you want to make sure that is theoretically optimized for the family. I mean, just to quote previous conversations that we've had.
Josh McAlister (28:23): So yeah. I just want to commend you and highlight that because you don't necessarily need to work. You're choosing to work because it's for the betterment of your family and for others. Is that fair to say?
Sarah Garver (28:33): Yeah. I mean, I don't know. I could not, not work, child or not. I enjoy being very busy. And the baseball, even with traveling, I mean, Mitchell's gone to the field from, if he has a seven, six, seven game, he is gone 2:00 till 11:00 at night. What do you do in that time if you're not at the game? You can find things to do, certainly. I like to fill my time and I'm lucky to be able to work because I enjoy doing that and I'm filling time at the same time, so-
Josh McAlister (29:09): Yeah. I love it. Given that, there's going to be a lot of wives out there in the baseball world that are trying to manage their work alongside their husband playing this game, whether they're in the Minor Leagues, whether they're in the Big Leagues or some I'm in between, right? What advice would you have for wives going through that for their feelings, their emotions, their dreams, their visions? Yeah. Just talk about what you've learned and what you maybe wish you knew back then.
Sarah Garver (29:41): I guess my advice would be, I mean, do it. If it's something you want to do, there's no reason, especially not baseball. Baseball should never be the reason that you shouldn't pursue it or be able to. And again, four years ago, three years ago, I never thought I'd be working at home as a vet. And here I am. And you can make these things happen if that's something you really want to do. You can find people to work with you and make it happen. And again, it goes back to that, it's only temporary and that's a lot in this case. Me working from home, it's only temporary. And again, baseball is only temporary. It's good to get your foot in the door with those things you are wanting to do because if baseball's done next year, you have your path and you're able to continue forth with that.
Sarah Garver (30:31): Nothing wrong with starting your path later, if you waited for baseball to be done. But it's nice having the security that you already have this path to go on. You already have your foot in the door to continue with whatever you've already been doing. And again, COVID sucked, yes, but it's really opened up so many opportunities, especially in our crazy lifestyle, traveling and whatever, to be able to do so much more on the road, or from home, or in different states. You don't necessarily need to be in an office in a city all the time. There's so much more opportunity now to work and do whatever from home or from the hotel in New York, or wherever. It's not like you don't have to be stuck in one city anymore, which is nice.
Josh McAlister (31:25): Love it. Sounds like three things summarizing in closing is be flexible. Be willing to work if that's what you want to do. And then also just get on the same page with what your family wants to be accomplishing, right? What are your priorities? What do you want? And it's not so much as like, Hey, if you want to work, make sure you make time for it, but also define if you want to work as well with what works for your individual family. Fair? Sarah Garver (31:53): Yeah.
Josh McAlister (31:54): Fair. Well, Sarah, thank you. Thank you for sharing your story. Thank you for taking the time to, yeah, just provide help, guidance, coaching for other wives that may be going through or significant others that may be going through what you've already done. And kudos to you and Mitch. And we look forward to seeing your continued success, even after baseball, because it is only temporary, right?
Sarah Garver (32:18): That is the moral of this story.
Josh McAlister (32:20): That's right.
Sarah Garver (32:21): It is only temporary.
Josh McAlister (32:23): That's right. Thank you, Sarah.
Sarah Garver (32:25): Thank you.
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